Pioneer Welding Site

July 26, 2007

Updated 100 Park Avenue Plans

100parkavecolorrenderin WECAN board and community members met with Hank Joiner and Smith Wilson of Athens Asheville, LLC on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 to hear response to concerns voiced on June 25, 2007 about the 100 Park Avenue development.  The new drawings that you see below and the list of issues were covered with mostly heads bobbing up and down rather than swinging side to side.  There will still be neighbors who will go to voice specific concerns to Planning and Zoning on September 5, 2007 but the WECAN board will discuss a possible letter of support to be drafted at our August 2, 2007 meeting.  Please show up at 6:30pm if you have an opinion you wish to share.100_park_ave_finalsite_pla

RECAP OF JUNE 25 MEETING

Neighbor comments & concerns:
1.     add interconnect from loop for future possible connection to Transit site.
2.     no “Chicken Loop”
3.     Is parking enough?
4.     Move drive.
5.     Architectural difference on Park Ave cottages. More color, eclectic.
6.     Use artist to help with detail “hand made America”
7.     traffic concern.
8.     offer “shell” sales
9.     do not allow neighbors use to be taken away
10.    ground hogs
11.    Pattiy states affordable component is good…. will help.
12.    community space to stay community space
13.    no walk on Jefferson
14.    keep walk to Jefferson.
15.    keep access to Jefferson on North side.
16.    less speculative buyer.
17.    Property tax effect on neighbors

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RECAP OF JULY 24 MEETING
Athens Asheville  LLC responses

1.    Interconnect added between new configurations of the 3 story buildings.
2.    Neighbors have suggested West End Circle
3.    We think Parking is sufficient and added 3 additional spaces. We want people to walk or ride other methods of transportation.
4.    Drive to Park Avenue needs to remain. We have added a potential inter drive if an arrangement can be reach between 100 Park Avenue North and any future development of the Transit site.
5.    Major changes to the street presence along Park Avenue. The middle 3unit building has changed to include a balcony unit. The end 3 unit building has been turned inward to face the twin oaks. This will eliminate the need for a massive retaining wall as the site is 20 feet above street elevation below the existing barrier in Park Avenue. This also creates a new and less massive view from Park Avenue and the entrance as now you will see the end of the building including the porch that wraps around the end for a nice visual break as you enter the property.
6.    We have not addressed use of Artist in the exterior design at this time due to time as it would be pre-mature.
7.    The traffic will be there and will have to work with the neighbors.
8.    We will not be able to offer shell sales due to our lender and restrictions by the C.O. process. We will revisit this if possible.
9.    Neighbors can use common areas and have access to connect with Jefferson by the new sidewalk that will go from the top down through the trees to Jefferson.
10.    Still under investigation. Dot owns majority of the Kudzu.
11.    We ask you to support 2 additional units to the total density, and we will provide 4 affordable 1 BR units in return.
12.    Community will have access to 100 Park Avenue North.
13.    We are requesting no additional sidewalk on Jefferson as one was just installed, and any further sidewalks would mean cut banks in the hill.
14.    We have designed a nice walk with switch backs to Jefferson. The final location to be determined by tree preservation needs.
15.    Walk to Jefferson to remain on the North side.
16.    We want local buyers but as 99% of recent Buncombe County has been from outside Buncombe County we expect more people that want a home will come from outside the area. Our marketing plan is designed to reach buyers wanting ownership.
17.    We will gladly work with WECAN to help formulate appeals with owners of older properties Older properties in the neighborhood should not have their improvements valued based on newer construction. It will be important to tract older home sales in the neighborhood for the purpose of having good comp sales for appeals. Lot values are going to increase because lots continue  selling at higher prices throughout the neighborhood.

June 29, 2007

100 Park Avenue Revisited

On Monday, June 25, 2007 neighbors from WECAN got a chance to voice their opinions with Hank Joiner & Smith Wilson, the developers for the old Pioneer Welding site. The neighbors present were Pattiy Torno, Joe Fioccola, Byron Ballard, Jessie Coleman, Bret Frk, Marjorie Vestal, Luella & David Heetderks.
In two hours, Smith & Hank gave an overview of their project, which at this point is substantially the same as the plan that was denied at Planning & Zoning on June 6,2007.  The main adjustment was to include 4 affordable units for a total of 41 units.  Joe Fioccola also asked if building #6 could be split/shifted to allow for a drive to come through the middle of its current foot print.  This would leave the possibility for a loop drive if and when the Transit Authority is brought back into the fabric of our neighborhood that might help address Luella's continuing traffic concerns.  Marjorie Vestal commented that her biggest problem in the neighborhood was the Bus Facility and that she was looking forward to as many new neighbors as possible to help convince the City of Asheville of the need for its relocation.
The neighbors made clear that they prefer the walk from Jefferson Drive up to the 100 Park Avenue site to stay to the north side of Pop's House.
The price points of this project hover around $250 per square foot... which means 4 affordable units for $100,000 to $150,000 and 37 units from $230,000 to $330,000.  While recognizing the pressure this will put on our property taxes, no solution was offered.
The architect for the project, Jane Matthews, showed us photoshop versions of what the top of the hill is projected to look like once this project is completed from Clingman Avenue at the bottom of the hill and from Curve Studios Parking lot.  In my opinion, with some trees, it is not so bad.  Smith Wilson has already purchased a windmill from some of his friends in Amish Country and hopes to put it on top of the hill, perhaps to generate some electricity for 100 Park Ave?  Bret Frk spoke to the issue of all the buildings looking the same, counter to the current flavor of the variety of style exsisting, side by side in the neighborhood.  The development team seemed open to talk about varying the colors as well as some "cool features", an architecture term coined at the meeting to include the possibility of handmade (by River Arts District Artists) exterior design elements.  Hank has voiced his desire to install some sculptural pieces on the 100 Park Avenue site.
Because of the addition of affordable units to this project, the development team will be required to go back to P&Z.  There will also be at least one more neighborhood meeting where the development team will  show WECAN the revised set of plans for the 100 Park Avenue Project, that we hope will address all of our concerns.
As i said in an e-mail to Hank & Smith the next day:
"WECAN is very appreciative of your sharing your time with us.
We are grateful for your willingness to sit down, talk, listen and respond.
I do feel we are finally on the right track."
I think that WECAN neighbors are scared of what this project will bring, but some of us took pause to think when Marjorie Vestal said she does not have a right to tell someone else what to do with their property. I think that the general feeling is one of trying to make the best of it, whatever comes.  That is what this neighborhood has been doing all its life.  And it has worked so far.

May 21, 2007

100 Park Avenue

Site_plan_final_concept_4 WECAN is going uptown!  The Pioneer Welding Site has been renamed 100 Park Avenue.  At the City of Asheville's Technical Review Committee Meeting of Monday, May 21, 2007, this project got the "Approved with Conditions" nod, (conditions having been set by city staff) to go ahead to Planning & Zoning's June 6th, 2007 meeting.  Expressed concerns from City Staff as well as yours truly include the large increase in traffic on Park Avenue, the speed of that traffic coming in and out of the neighborhood on Short Hilliard, accessibility for Fire Trucks and other public safety vehicles, available water pressure/capacity on Park Avenue and Jefferson Drive, adequate waster water capacity, parking lot lighting, handicapped accessibility, a tree survey to document the current trees and assure they are still there at the finish of construction, determine the correct sidewalk widths due to the narrow nature of Park Ave, etc.  To read the entire document of the Staff Report please look to your right here and click on Pioneer Welding Site under "Categories".  Scroll down and you will find an article entitled: 100 Park Avenue City of Asheville Staff Report for TRC.

A representative from this project will be giving a presentation at WECAN's Moveable Feast on Monday, May 28, 2007.  While the feast is set from 4 to 7pm, the 100 Park Avenue discussion will take place from 5:15 to 5:30pm, so come eat, listen and voice an opinion if you have one in Owens-Bell Park, on the corner of Clingman Avenue and Rector Street on Memorial Day!!

We are sure to be talking about this project at our next board meeting, June 7th, 2007, 6:30pm at the MHO Community Room, Merritt Park Apartments, 64 Clingman Avenue, 1st floor.

April 26, 2007

Pioneer Site has Plans

Pioneer_site_407 I got stopped on the street by Alan Glines, a City of Asheville planner and great guy.  He showed me the published plans for the Pioneer Welding project that is being called  100 Park Avenue.  It shows 39 units on the 3.3 acre site.  The neighbors up on the hill are mostly concerned about how the 60? or so new neighbors are going to get in and out of their new homes, as Park Avenue is, in effect, a one lane road... There is on street parking that narrows that 20 foot wide road down to where a fire truck can hardly get in and out... As far as i have heard, none of these units will fall within the "affordable" designation.  There goes the neighborhood.

This project will go before Technical Review Committee on Monday, May 21, 2007 starting at 1:30pm... in Asheville City Hall's 1st floor conference room. (just ask the elevator operator where to go) I will keep you updated as to when it will go to Planning & Zoning and City Council as i hear...

April 21, 2007

100 Park Avenue City of Asheville Staff Report for TRC.

Site_plan_final_concept_3 DRAFT TRC STAFF REPORT (***A  final TRC staff report will be provided to the applicant after the TRC meeting to include any additional conditions that may have been added during the meeting.***)

TO: TRC Members and Project Applicant                                                      
DATE: May 21, 2007
Prepared by:Alan M. Glines
APPLICANT:Athens Asheville Partners, LLC
SUBJECT:100 Park Avenue

Conditional Use Permit Summary Statement: The project under review is known as 100 Park Avenue.  The developers are Athens Asheville Partners, LLC.  They are seeking a conditional use permit to develop 39 residential units using the Development Standards Bonus for residential projects.  Under the Developers Standard Bonus the developer can apply for a density bonus of 50 % over the underlying zoning of RM-8 for exceptional site design measures that preserves critical environmental features and enhance community character.

Review: The project is reviewed under a conditional use permit process.  The project is reviewed by the Technical Review Committee (TRC) who review technical and code matters associated with conceptual plans for the project.  If the project is approved by the TRC the project then continues on to the Planning and Zoning Commission (P&Z).  The Planning and Zoning Commission reviews the merits of the site plan and how it meets the goals of the CUP requirements.  The P&Z also considers the compatibility of the project in the community and with the comprehensive plan and makes a recommendation to City Council.  City Council reviews the merits of the plan, compatibility with community goals and the comprehensive plan and considers the recommendation of P&Z.  If the project is approved by City Council, then the final development plans are reviewed by the TRC Conditional Use Permits (CUP) reviewed under the Development Standards Bonus and Conditional Use permits each have special requirements for project approval.  Projects seeking Development Standards Bonus must meet a minimum of three items from the Exceptional Development Checklist.  All projects that are CUP must also be evaluated under the seven conditional use standards found in Article 16 of the UDO.  The seven CUP standards evaluate compatibility of the proposal with adopted plans and policies, suitable infrastructure and harmony with the site and surrounding community. These standards are included in the evaluation of the project by staff and review bodies. “Please note:  as a Conditional Use Permit (or Conditional Zoning) additional measures that exceed the minimum technical requirements evaluated in this report may be recommended in subsequent analyses and review of the project.”

PLANNING: Development Standards Bonus for Exceptional Development:  Since the project is seeking a density bonus for exceptional development the following suggestions are noted.  Although these items are not technical in nature the project will have to be considered in relation to these items to justify the bonus.  The Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council will consider the merits of the project. 

The following items for consideration are already noted on the plan or could be considered to strengthen the project.:
1.       Provide a tree survey for the existing tree areas including location of trunks for the twin oaks and other tree located on Jefferson and the large grouping of trees also located along the slope above Jefferson.  The survey should include all trees with a 12” dbh.
2.       Relocate the pedestrian steps along Jefferson Drive to the west side of the site to avoid the natural stand of trees to be saved for the environment design.
3.       Consider a pavilion structure as a center piece of the open space to the west of the site above Jefferson.
4.       The kudzu bank should be repaired as a part of the environmental design to include kudzu removal and slope coverage.
5.       Protect the stone wall along Park Avenue and limit removal of the wall; historic fabric of the neighborhood is reflected in the wall.
6.       Project is attempting to provide a welcome edge with the neighborhood through the sidewalk connection into the project from Jefferson Drive and placement of the units along and addressing the street at Park Avenue. 
7.       The project proposes healthy built homes designation and dismantled the existing building in a way that recycled the materials.
8.       Building 3 along Park Avenue should be shifted closer to Park Avenue to offer greater protection to the two large oaks behind it.  Front setbacks may be modified by City Council as apart of the adoption of the masterplan if required.
9.       On Building 6 the end unit nearest to Park Avenue should be turned or designed to interact with the street.  This may be done with a porch feature with a similar note for front setbacks as Building 3.
10.    Need details to the reviewed and accepted by the Engineering Department for the bio -retention facilities.
11.    Consider making the western side of buildings 4 and 5 with simpler more traditional roof forms to fit in with the neighborhood character as viewed from a distance and surrounding streets and hillsides.
12.    Provide elevations for all structures as the project proceeds to Planning and Zoning Commission.

Landscape Plan:  The project is seeking to use the landscape ordinance that is currently being considered by City Council.  The approval of the project by the TRC will be contingent on the adoption of the landscape ordinance by City Council.  If the amendment is not adopted, the developer has the option of either seeking a modification for landscaping as a part of the masterplan. The amended landscape code eliminates the need for buffers between this project and non-residential uses.
13.  The parking lot landscaping has been expanded in the amendment and so the parking areas will be reviewed to comply with the code.
14.  Street trees will be required along both Park Avenue and Jefferson Drive to comply with the ordinance.  Existing trees are recommended to be saved to help meet this requirement and can be included on the survey this is noted earlier.
15.  The tree checklist  notes ten trees as credits on the plan.  These will need to be verified on the plan and tree survey.
16.  Parking lot plantings may be in conflict with proposed utility lines.  Trees will need to be located away from the easement
17.  Retaining wall along the north property line need be reflected on the landscape plan to ensure planning areas and width.
18.  Landscape plans will receive a more thorough review after project approval from City Council.

Site Plan:
19.  Project needs a building setback modification from City Council for the rear setback area for Building 5.  The setback is minor at no greater than 5’ and can be considered with the adoption of the masterplan.
20.  A sidewalk may be required along Park Ave.
21.  Open space needs to be calculated on the plan, verify that the open space provided is allowable on the ordinance (no more than 50% may be steeper slope areas)

TREE COMMISSION: No comments regarding conceptual plan

BUILDING INSPECTIONS:  Mark Case – 259-5628 Project is subject to State Building Code. If approved a site permit and a building permit for each structure issued by Building Safety is also required before any work related to State Building Code can start.
1.     Provide location and type of each HC accessible unit.
2.     Provide HC visitor parking in each parking lot.
3.     Provide location of HC parking of building residence.
4.     Provide Type of construction and if building are equipped with sprinkler system.
5.     Minimum site information not provide on sidewalk system to show compliance with State Accessibility Code.

WATER RESOURCES:  Mike Brookshire – 259-5961 The Letter of Commitment for this project directed the applicant to the existing 6-inch waterline on Jefferson Street.  This was done because of a flow test on Park Avenue which indicated that the water supply on Park was not sufficient to serve the project, particularly with fire flow. I have requested a new flow test on Park.  Depending on the results of that test, the proposed point of  connection for this project may need to be shifted to Jefferson. When the point of connection has been determined, plans of the proposed water system extension must be submitted to the City Engineer’s Office for review, approval and permitting.  This water plan review is independent of the TRC process.

FIRE DEPARTMENT:  Wayne Hamilton – 259-5641    
1. Internal one way street to be posted as a Fire Lane. Width is required to be 16 ft.    
2. Sheet C-5: Fire hydrant must be installed at the entrance road to the project, not the exit road.  Move the fire hydrant to between building 2 and 3.    
3. All three story buildings to be sprinklered.    
4. There will need to be a meeting to determine if the needed fire flow can be met.

PUBLIC WORKS:  Richard Grant – 259-5937 Show parking area lighting per COA specifications.

ENGINEERING: Traffic- Ken Putnam – 259-5415 Action: Approve with conditions
Traffic and Transportation
1.     Please depict the required sight triangles for the driveway entrances.
2.     Must dimension all radii driveway entrances.
3.     All driveway connections to public streets must conform to City of Asheville Std. Detail 3.15 and shall have 3.5’ corner radii.  Please include the detail on the plans.  ADA accessibility must be maintained through driveway. (Please eliminate the deceleration lane).
4.     Sidewalk construction or fee in lieu of sidewalk construction will be required for property frontage along Jefferson Drive.  If sidewalk is constructed it must be 5’ wide with a 5’ wide buffer strip between street and sidewalk.  A 10’ wide easement/right of way area, centered on the center of the sidewalk is required for sidewalk maintenance.  For any portion of this area that falls on private property, outside the right-of-way, a sidewalk easement will be required.  On the revised plans depict the sidewalk or indicate if fee-in lieu of will be paid and depict the easement.
5.     All sidewalk should be 5’ wide with at 5’ buffer between the street and sidewalk.
6.     Access ramps will be required at all proposed pedestrian drive and street crossing locations.  On the revised plans depict the crossing locations and required ramps.  These access ramps must be ADA compliant and meet City specifications.  Note that the ramps at street crossings are required to have truncated dome warning devices.  The truncated domes shall be constructed with cast iron plats.  Provide detail on plan.
7.     Maintain proper cross-slope across the driveways for ADA accessibility.
8.     Extend sidewalk between buildings 6 and 7 to provide connection with other sidewalk.

Grading, Erosion & Stormwater

9.     The developer/owner or a representative must make application for a separate grading, erosion and drainage permit by final TRC plans are submitted.  All required plans, information and calculations must be submitted with the application for the review and approval of required permits.
10.  Minimum drainage line size is 15” outside of ROW and 18” inside ROW.
11.  It appears drainage infrastructure will be required along interior road, please revise.

Water Line Extension

12.  After applying for and receiving a Water Availability Letter of Commitment from the City of Asheville, Water Resources Department, the developer/owner or a representative must submit all required plans, information and calculations for review and approval of the water extension.
13.  20’ waterline easement must be clear of all above ground obstructions, it appears some conflicts exist and waterline will need to be revised.
14.  All water lines should be placed outside of streets 2’-3’ from back of curb.
15.  Minimum waterline size is 6”, please revise.

MSD:  Kevin Johnson – 225-8289 A wastewater allocation has been submitted for this project.  Approval is conditioned on the applicant following MSD procedures for extension, construction and acceptance of service lines and complying with the conditions outlined in the wastewater allocation approval letter for this project.

***Additional TRC Conditions added from Meeting*** §       When resubmitting revised plans, the applicant shall provide a letter to the City addressing the TRC staff report conditions.  It should state how and where the items have been addressed on the revised plans. §       The revised plans shall clearly identify the revisions noted in the staff report.

March 31, 2007

WECAN says "Goodby" to Pioneer Welding

Pioneertrash33107 The destruction has begun up on top of the tallest hill in our neighborhood.  The main building that was Pioneer Welding is now various piles of rubble.  Gerald Green of Greenplan will be first (or second) up at our next WECAN board meeting, which takes place on April 5th, 2007, 6:30pm at the Merritt Park/MHO Jessie Nell Coleman Community Room.  Please join us to hear what owners, Smith Wilson and Hank Joiner of Athens, GA have in store for the top 3.3 acres of our neighborhood.

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